Hi, Gary F. (It always surprises me that anyone outside my immediate circle reads these things!)
This is the larger of Gary's two posts. ( A man after my own heart - I always remember more I wanted to say after I think I've finished...) I want to comment on his comment - wonder if he'll ever see this, though?
My experience is as follows.
1) Don't try to stop seizures by experimenting. Seizures trigger when the cat is resting, and all you can hope to do is keep him comfortable and minimize the freq.
1)Milkshake may be losing weight due to an open tooth and intense pain (May 16th chewing episode, teeth do break during seizures). Smokey had 2 open canines that were extracted and he perked up.
5) No one can catch Smokey for his 12 hour drugs except my wife and self. To do it we set the oven timer, and when it goes off we whistle like the timer. He comes out, jumps up onto the window ledge and waits for his pill and his treats.
6)I use food coloring with a toothpick to put green dots on his morning drug dose and red dots on the night dose. If he spits the pill, I have a better chance of determing when he did it and what I should do about it.
This is the larger of Gary's two posts. ( A man after my own heart - I always remember more I wanted to say after I think I've finished...) I want to comment on his comment - wonder if he'll ever see this, though?
My first time writing: Sorry about your cat, you've shown a lot of love.
Thank you, Gary - I can't even put into words how much I have loved this little cat since the very first minute I saw him, half dead in the cage at PetSmart.
My cat Smokey is also on phenobarb for seizures. Thanks for posting the video, it helped.
(Kind of ghoulish, though, don't you think?)
My experience is as follows.
1) Don't try to stop seizures by experimenting. Seizures trigger when the cat is resting, and all you can hope to do is keep him comfortable and minimize the freq.
I have frankly been experimenting with his medication - which I know is not recommended, but to be truthful, it never made any sense to me that you had to always give the exact same dosage all the time - if the medication is intended to achieve a regular specific constant level in the blood, then what difference does it make to give another quarter or half pill periodically? It's all going to even out in the end, right? And because of the hazardous phenobarb level that Milk reached prior to starting the Keppra, I live in mortal fear that it might happen again. I have accepted that he's apparently not going to be able to be "controlled" without phenobarb, but I want the dosage to be as minimal as possible while still being effective. (The whole issue of phenobarb is complicated by the anorexia. Less phenobarb = more appetite = more seizures. It's a delicate balancing act, at best.)
1)Milkshake may be losing weight due to an open tooth and intense pain (May 16th chewing episode, teeth do break during seizures). Smokey had 2 open canines that were extracted and he perked up.
Nope, his teeth are excellent. I'm big on dentals for the cats, and I do have the vet check him each appointment. He's still very young, which I think helps. I don't know what I would think about the idea of anesthesia for him (to have a dental, for example.) Your Smokey didn't have any problem with it?
Milk's lost weight because he has been anorexic since the very first phenobarb pill. "Paradoxical reaction", I assume. He never got over the dopiness, or the incoordination or any of the other unfortunate side effects of phenobarb, either. I kept waiting for them to disappear, and they never did, until his liver function values were affected. Apparently, despite the large doses of Keppra, he needs the phenobarb to control the seizures no matter what.
2) Be consistent with the phenobarb doses and timing. Don't increase the night dose. Seizures are a barbiturate roller coaster with periods of highs, withdrawals and possibly headaches.
Too late, I'm afraid. ( **antijinx**) He has been on uneven doses of both phenobarb and keppra for weeks now, and so far, so good - we are approaching the longest time he's ever gone without having a seizure - it will be two months in a couple of days. That doesn't seem like a very long time, of course, but it feels like a real achievement - and a blessing for Milk - from here. As I said above, if the amounts of the drug in the blood are intended to level themselves out, then I really don't see what difference it makes. That said, I'm terrified that this switching to the larger Keppra pills is going to turn out to be a problem. Terrified.
3)Smokey is 14 lbs, and gets 10.5 MG of Phenobarb every 12 hours based on a blood target below 30. No Keppra. I have a laboratory grade scale that I bought from a local university salvage department for $35. (I can weigh the paper cicle cut from a 3 ring hole punch). I cut the tablets with a small wire cutter, then rub them on a mechanics file to grind them to my target weight. It takes time to find equipment like this. In the meantime get a $20 gunpowder scale (used for reloading ammo). Cut a plastic drinking straw to your pill target weight as your "transfer standard". Now you can check your scale week after week, because it will drift and hang up. (Don't use a cut pill for your standard, it absorbs moisture or can flake apart).
This is VERY interesting! (And my husband actually HAS a gunpowder scale - not that I'd use it for Milk, of course, since it's covered with gunpowder..... He's a skeet shooter. My husband, not Milkshake.) I do worry because no two pills ever end up the same size. I have a friend who grinds up all of her cat's pills and uses a special scale to weigh them. Her concern is the amount of filler in the pills, and that stuff about how generics are allowed to vary from the original brand name drug by up to 20%. I don't know if there's any way to know that kind of information, though. And I had heard about not using generics for brain problems, but didn't remember that until just recently. Keppra is an incredibly expensive drug - even the generic from Canada costs hundreds of dollars.
4) Put a dab of Nutri-cal on your finger and then in the cat's mouth at least 4 times a day to help him gain weight/vitamins. Then use an eye dropper to squirt fresh water in his mouth to hydrate him, even if he objects. Just like you'd do to a baby.
I bottlefeed Milk with a kitten bottle - he doesn't seem to mind, and I don't have to worry about damaging his teeth or injuring the delicate tissues in his mouth with a syringe. I feed him canned EVO Cat and Kitten food, which is a human grade cat food product. I have a (currently) diet-controlled diabetic cat, also, and I'm very cautious about what all the cats eat, and about making sure they have adequate hydration. I don't give any of the cats food that contains wheat gluten, and usually, they eat some raw along with the canned. Most days, I give Milk two 4 ounce bottles. Left to his own devices, unless his phenobarb level has fallen to 24 or under, he just doesn't choose to eat much of anything.
5) No one can catch Smokey for his 12 hour drugs except my wife and self. To do it we set the oven timer, and when it goes off we whistle like the timer. He comes out, jumps up onto the window ledge and waits for his pill and his treats.
I wish I could get Milk trained to respond like Smokey! I even bought a clicker.... The worst time we had in this miserable epilepsy journey was a couple months ago, when he absolutely refused to let me get hold of him for pilling. His pills were never on time, and I was getting NO sleep. That sort of settled down, and now, most of the time, I can get hold of him without a huge amount of difficulty. Once I've got him, he just sits on the counter and waits patiently until I've wrapped the pills in the Pill Pockets and gotten everything ready. (But if I get the pills ready first, and he hears the Pill Pocket bag crinkling, he's gone in a flash. No dummy!)
6)I use food coloring with a toothpick to put green dots on his morning drug dose and red dots on the night dose. If he spits the pill, I have a better chance of determing when he did it and what I should do about it.
What a clever idea this is!
Thanks for saving Milkshake. He's had a much better life than he would have with most people.
Thanks for saving Milkshake. He's had a much better life than he would have with most people.
Thank you, Gary F, for the kind words and your suggestions. I think Smokey must be a lucky cat, too!
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